| in typical kenny fashion, you are here simply to start drama without having the ability to address the technical discussion at hand. He's provided you with the dyno sheets, a/f printouts, and timing maps to identify where the agressive or unsafe parameters lie. I never stated that his tuning was aggressive or unsafe. If you look at the a/f charts on just about every dyno, you see safe a/f ratios. Your request for fuel maps serves to prove your lack of the grasp of what is going on. The a/f is safe, it doesn't matter what the fuel maps look like to have them there. The point is that they are SAFE. I never said they weren't safe. The inclusion of the timing maps (and i'm actually somewhat surprised that he included them - i've never seen a tuner do anything of the sort) should give you all the ammunition you need to pick apart his tuning. But the fact is that you can't. I wasn't trying to. Those timing maps look totally within safe limits without anything on the ragged edge. Turns out - a/f curves, dyno sheets, and timing maps give you just about everything you need to evaluate the state of tune of an engine. Running lean? its in the a/f. Ridiculous timing? its in the timing map. Too much air? too much fuel? etc etc - its just about all in there. The only thing that I can think of wanting to see would be EGTs, but just about every car in that lineup has egt gagues - and from firsthand experience observing ash tune - he certainly was very aware of what the EGTs were showing. The point ash is making (and its a very good point) is that when he tunes the cars, the resulting tune is safe. You point to cars that had engines blow up, and he has shown you the tune that he gave them. He has shown a single dyno chart for each engine in a controlled environment, agreed. I never said his tuning was responsible, only that it was the only common factor and that it's pretty ironic that he's using cars with blown motors in his dyno parade. You are simply unable to comment on the tune, and so you try to stir up as much drama as possible. Most of those engines that did blow up were caused by components wholly unrelated to the ECU. You don't actually know that for a fact. You, spee, Halo, and genic are really ruining this board and community. You have taken it upon yourselves to cause as much trouble as possible, while giving very little back to the community as a whole. I have helped countless local Z guys, I help people via email frequently, I have helped troubleshoot issues on TTNet in the tech section quite a bit, I've even spent some time discussing HTML issues with Damon and Greg and helped to troubleshoot a few minor items. Spee's record of Z service speaks for itself, as does Halo's. Genic has donated countless man hours in service of Twinturbo.net, not to mention he has donated some hardware to help run the site, if I'm not mistaken. The fact remains that none of us are actively causing trouble as much as calling it like we see it as individuals. I found it ironic that Ash's dyno parade was actually an engine obituary, so I posted as such. He bobbed and weaved around the clear facts of the situation for a while, then agreed that his tuning was a common factor. The vast majority of members that I have spoken to regarding you have expressed similar sentiments, and this post serves to illustrate the point well. It sounds like you are talking to people who are just as ignorant as you are regarding my service to this community. There was a time when this community was about a sense of cameraderie and a willingness to help others. You contribute to neither. I've befriended countless members, given of my own time, money, parts and expertise to help others - and I've never expressed an unwillingness to help a member in need who clearly expressed himself in an intelligent manner. You can make any character assassinations you like, but they're simply untrue.
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